I think that’s a good visual definition of transclusion: when you are reading a quote and suddenly Ted Nelson appears, staring back at you—that’s transclusion.
I don’t know if this is a good idea, but I imagined a "scroll bar" appearing as the source text is revealed, orienting you within the total text… I was too lazy to make an animated GIF, which I know is becoming the CDG standard; here is a three-page PDF you can flip through to see what I mean. The scroll bar “track" is actually the entire text; the “thumb” is the amount of text currently displayed in the full-sized quoted area.
I suppose this is just an existing “universe view” (to use the Pro Tools name for it). [arrows below not added by me]
On Dec 3, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Glen Chiacchieri wrote:
I really like this, but I thought it needed one improvement. See my attachment.<nelsonpeek.mov>On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Dave Cerf wrote:I can only handle so much mind-blowing per day.
The dimensionality of this is fascinating. My first thought after perusing this a bit: what happens when you are reading a quote which itself quotes something? That thought occurred to me in relation to the Federated Wiki.
There are also interesting overlaps (literally) with this concept and video clips edited together, which themselves typically have “handles” beyond the range used in an edited sequence. The ease of the “I’d like to see a bit more of this” gesture in this prototype is delightful.
(Almost totally unrelated except for the gesture, but I recently noticed in OS X that when Quick Looking a high-res image in Finder, holding Option zooms into the image temporarily. Tapping Option zooms and holds.)
On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Bret Victor wrote:
> A quick and simple prototype, inspired by Ted Nelson and RMO:
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> http://worrydream.com/PeekQuotes/
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