Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 11:35:42 -0700
From: Bret Victor
Subject: Re: "Being in the World"-world
Some more context for this:

1) Let’s convene all interested parties this Wednesday from 2-4pm (date and time negotiable, though I can’t do evenings this week) to think together about Being in the World in the World. We can sit on the couch and watch/discuss parts of the film, while mocking up the tools to bootstrap us into higher realms of conversation/insight. Let me know if you want to be part of that conversation, but are unable to join this Wednesday. 

I'd like to do a group brainstorm / play-acting session around new ways of watching / understanding / discussing a film.  As a starting point, bringing together and extending some of the concepts that have been floating around:

 - watching within a representation of the whole

(and many others)


 - navigation



 - capturing moments for discussion


 - through discussion, collectively building a meaningful structure that can be referenced and understood later

(hyperopia, interlace, something about cinematic reality, email wall, ...?)


Our group has normally developed ideas via "go off and build a prototype by yourself".  With this session, I'd like us to try developing a set of ideas by talking and sketching together first.  We can then use those ideas as sparks for future prototypes.

I thought we'd use "Being in the World" as our example film, just because it's still fresh in our minds, and I already started playing with building a space for it.  We can talk about how we wished we could have watched and discussed it.

Aiming for tomorrow 2 pm.


On Jun 8, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Michael Nagle wrote:


When I was watching the movie, I felt like I wanted to know where I was within the structure, and to be able to "look back" at what was shown before and make connections.  At the end, I felt like "I've been staring at this screen for 80 minutes and remember being very moved emotionally and intellectually, but I don't really have any grasp of what I just saw."  (I feel that way after many films/videos.) 

One thing that struck me here was being very interested in where you had the emotional and intellectual responses. If it's able to be shared or spatialized what things specifically moved you.

During the watching I was struck by being socially uncomfortable, and I was noticing how my interpretations of laughter changed depending on whether or not I knew the person. When people I didn't know were laughing, I tended to feel kind of defensive on the movie's behalf. When RMO laughed, I tended to assume something linguistic had just caught his ear, and he was noticing a subtle distinction like the ones I think he likes to make (form v. style, virtual v. real, etc.) 

I feel like better understanding other viewer's moments of when and by whom they were moved, and perhaps being able to unpack that later in conversation, would be a neat thing.